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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – However … FEED your people, give them medical care, provide them housing and the other essentials of life. What use is freedom if your population is slowly dying before your eyes? Grrrr. That’s just not true I’m insurance less (is that even a word?) and resources are available to me. Thank heavens. My Zyprexa bill is $600 a month and the county picks it up, and I generally don’t qualify for programs. Wonderful, Robert! I am glad for you. What about the people who have no access to such funding? What about the example of an individual on this very newsgroup who waited months for Seroquel … how many people go without?  I know that there are programs for people who cannot pay for medications … do they cover EVERYONE that apply? When my grandfather died, in 1989, he had been in the hospital for several weeks following a series of strokes and heart attacks … the bill to the "estate" was $89,000. Fortunately he had a benefit from AARP that covered terminal hospital stays … what about people without that insurance … they would have been stuck with that bill ~ and a corpse! I am sorry, Robert … you have every right to be a proud citizen ~ just remember that in the grand scheme of things, more people live in poverty around the world, are dying of starvation (24,000 die every day) and of various diseases that make the problems in the United States look small. I am not saying the terrorist attacks were that ~ perish the thought ~ but world opinion is different … look at the demonstrations in Pakistan …. On the other hand, I can say that here in Ottawa there has been a great outpouring of sympathy … the American Embassy has been over-run with flowers and all sorts of gifts of condolence since the attack … we are neighbours, we just don’t necessarily believe that the response should be what is currently going on. Peter

Lighten up Peter, you have always bashed americans and frankly in the grand scheme of things your views are meaningless. I stated what I did earlier to show you that the poorer class people like myself can get care in america. I really don’t understand your fixation to our country. Remove the **** from my address for email replies…. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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However … FEED your people, give them medical care, provide them housing and the other essentials of life. What use is freedom if your population is slowly dying before your eyes? Grrrr. That’s just not true I’m insurance less (is that even a word?) and resources are available to me. Thank heavens. My Zyprexa bill is $600 a month and the county picks it up, and I generally don’t qualify for programs.

Wonderful, Robert! I am glad for you. What about the people who have no access to such funding? What about the example of an individual on this very newsgroup who waited months for Seroquel … how many people go without?  I know that there are programs for people who cannot pay for medications … do they cover EVERYONE that apply? When my grandfather died, in 1989, he had been in the hospital for several weeks following a series of strokes and heart attacks … the bill to the "estate" was $89,000. Fortunately he had a benefit from AARP that covered terminal hospital stays … what about people without that insurance … they would have been stuck with that bill ~ and a corpse! I am sorry, Robert … you have every right to be a proud citizen ~ just remember that in the grand scheme of things, more people live in poverty around the world, are dying of starvation (24,000 die every day) and of various diseases that make the problems in the United States look small. I am not saying the terrorist attacks were that ~ perish the thought ~ but world opinion is different … look at the demonstrations in Pakistan …. On the other hand, I can say that here in Ottawa there has been a great outpouring of sympathy … the American Embassy has been over-run with flowers and all sorts of gifts of condolence since the attack … we are neighbours, we just don’t necessarily believe that the response should be what is currently going on. Peter —

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Risperdal made me fatter than I was already. I could live with that I suppose if it was at all effective. Unfortunately it didn’t do anything except make me gain weight, stimulate lactation of all the goddamn things to happen, and make me sleep 12 hours a day. It certainly did NOT lift my depression and I have tossed it. My doctor promises a new drug out in the next few weeks that is NOT supposed to make one gain any weight. And, I also take a prescription amphetamine and amphetamines do NOT, repeat do NOT assist with weight loss. Zyprexa I found to be wonderfully effective, but it too caused a noticeable weight gain. The last thing this depressed girl needs it to gain any more weight!! I would rather cry everyday. It is easier to deal with depression than trying to lose a hundred pounds.

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Has anyone noticed that Risperdal makes them fat? I have gained 20 pounds in the last 2 months and had to go buy a new set of clothes.  I would consider switching to Seroquel but I heard that caused weight gain as well and I can’t afford Zyprexa. I’m almost tempted to score some amphetamine to help me lose the weight but it was the cause of my manic psychosis and the reason I’m taking the Risperdal.

Don’t bother with stimulants. They don’t sufficiently counteract medication-induced weight gain. If you already know you’re manic, dropping amphetamines could subject you and those around you to enormous risk. It isn’t worth it just to lose a few pounds.

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Risperdal is a shitty medication. Other anti-psychotics are available that have a better side effect profile, such as Zyprexa and Seroquel.

It’s not really that bad, I think it may just have a poor reputation as I gather that it’s often prescribed at excessive doses.  Zyprexa is probably worse for weight gain from what I can tell, and Seroquel appears to be fairly neutral, at least that seems to be the general opinion at this stage. Chris.

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Has anyone noticed that Risperdal makes them fat? I have gained 20 pounds in the last 2 months and had to go buy a new set of clothes.  I would consider switching to Seroquel but I heard that caused weight gain as well and I can’t afford Zyprexa. I’m almost tempted to score some amphetamine to help me lose the weight but it was the cause of my manic psychosis and the reason I’m taking the Risperdal.

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Has anyone noticed that Risperdal makes them fat? I have gained 20 pounds in the last 2 months and had to go buy a new set of clothes.  I would consider switching to Seroquel but I heard that caused weight gain as well and I can’t afford Zyprexa. I’m almost tempted to score some amphetamine to help me lose the weight but it was the cause of my manic psychosis and the reason I’m taking the Risperdal.

I also gain weight on Risperdal. I got off it and my appitiete is nill. I expect I will lose the weight, but the risperedal worked very, very well. I was put on thyroid meds in its place. It is ok. Jo Getting along without risperedal – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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HI mary, I’m not psychotic at all, and I don’t have a diagnosis yet. I had assumed a few months ago that I had unipolar depression, but lately I’m beginning to wonder. My pdoc said maybe Risperdal would improve my concentration–

It is used for that. apparently she thinks it will stop the "racing thoughts" kind of stuff I’ve been having.

That sounds like BP illness. I’m also on Zoloft for the depression. I’m just kind of confused about this.

It can be confusing. ADs without the coverage of a MS (mood stabilize have the potential,for triggering a manic episode. I was Treated incorrectly for unipolar depression over a period of 35 years with disastrous consequences. All along I had BP disorder. Perhaps you can discuss this issue with your pdoc? Email me anytime. Peace, Reach beyond your grasp!

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Yes you guys i have had the same problem i believe too and boy has a wrong diagnosis almost cost me everything all those dear to me im going to have my drugs figured out monday let ya know how it all goes amy

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Antipsychotic drugs such as Risperdal are used to prevent psychotic thinking, as well as to help control other problems such as "racing thoughts." I take them for these reasons. I have taken Risperdal and it worked well for me for several months, until I had side effects that caused me to have to discontinue it. Antipsychotics are serious medicine and not to be taken lightly, but then, so are all psychiatric meds. They can be life-saving and life-sustaining when prescribed appropriately. Talk with your pdoc to find out exactly why you are being prescribed the drug, what side effects and risks you need to watch out for, and how long it is expected you may need to take the drug. — For more information about this service, send e-mail to:

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Just wondering… anybody here on Risperdal, and if so, why are you taking it?

It’s an antipsychotic. I take a different antipsychotic, Haldol, because I have had a lot of problems with hallucinations and delusions. jackie Web page at http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/close/xhq10/mem.htm I’ve been Jay H, Canarybird, Empty Cage, Serin, Phoenix, even Crow. Let’s see if I can stick with this one for a while.

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Just wondering… anybody here on Risperdal, and if so, why are you taking it? Mary — "In my opinion the drug is ready" ~The Tragically Hip, "Butts Wigglin"

Great sig…..great song, from a GREAT movie..from a great band:-) Anyways…..just some thoughts and observations. Now, I am no doctor, but am a social worker who works with Brain Injured people. Many drugs have been "tried" on alot of these people…plus I have access to one of the largest psychiatric medical libraries in the world.(At McMaster University) A number of pdocs, as well as some reknowned med journals, have been coming out against the "overuse" of antipsychotics….old or new. In the long run….these may be some of the most dangerous meds in use. There are MANY other better established meds that can do the trick (if you aren’t diagnosed with schizophrenia). For aggitative "mania", a combination of "mood stabilizers" (from Epival/Depakote to Topomax and Neurontin), and antidressants, plus some long lasting benzodiazpines and a seperate a.d to help with sleep.(Like Trazedone, Elavil, etc.) Aggressive, proactive med therapy is appropriate…and you have to find a pdoc who is willing to try a number of things.(Most likely…one who works out of a psyc. ward at a hospital..). Good luck in your search…and please email me if you wish to talk!! Best Wishes…James M:-)   — "Some are born to rule the world- To live their fantasy. But most of us just dream about The things we’d like to be Sadder still to watch it die Then never to have known it… For you the blind, who once could see.. The bell tolls for thee.." Neil Peart "Losing It" (With an ode to E. Hemingway) Remember "Life is a Highway"? Visit Tom Cochrane’s Official Homepage www.tomcochrane.ca

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Just wondering… anybody here on Risperdal, and if so, why are you taking it? Mary — "In my opinion the drug is ready" ~The Tragically Hip, "Butts Wigglin"

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Hi,    I’m new to this board and I’m on Risperdal. It’s for psychotic thoughts/behaviour, which for me is part of mania. AnonID

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I’m not psychotic at all, and I don’t have a diagnosis yet. I had assumed a few months ago that I had unipolar depression, but lately I’m beginning to wonder. My pdoc said maybe Risperdal would improve my concentration– apparently she thinks it will stop the "racing thoughts" kind of stuff I’ve been having. I’m also on Zoloft for the depression. I’m just kind of confused about this. Mary — "In my opinion the drug is ready" ~The Tragically Hip, "Butts Wigglin"

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<Posted and Mailed to Deanna Hi…..

Welcome! I hope that you can find the information and support that you are seeking in the BP Newsgroups. I am new to this group and would like to know if anyone here has heard of or taking the med Risperdal?  And if you are taking it, what is it used for exactly and how has it helped.

Risperdal is classified as an antipsychotic. Its purpose (at least in adults) is to reduce or preferably eliminate psychoses. These events can happen when a person with a BP disorder is in a (hypo)manic state. My son was recently diagnosed with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder.  He has been on several meds (clonidine, adderall, ritalin, pamelor) and none of these have seemed to help.  His doctor seems to think there is something more going on than just ADHD as he has wide mood swings, explosive temper tantrums, and is EXTREMELY aggressive,

Does your pdoc suspect that your son may be exhibiting BP symptoms? IMO ADHD and BP are frequently confused when attempting to diagnose children. Any input on this would greatly be appreciated.

Some pdocs are using the new mood stabilizer Neurontin (gabapentin) in the treatment of children with BP. You don’t state how old your son is. However you may find this Web site of interest: BP Children & Teens: http://members.aol.com/DrgnKpr1/BPCAT.html Thanks!!…..Deanna

You are most welcome! I hope that your son can find the correct med cocktail that is effective for him. Unfortunately it will undoubtedly require much trial and error experimentation. Best wishes from, James

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My son has Bipolar he was diagnosed with Bipolar after five years of the doctors not be able to decide whether he was schizophrenic  or schiziod effective but the have given me a definite Bipolar now and he has been on Risperdol for seven weeks now it made him very tired at first but he is coping quite well now compared to what he was he is not normal but he has been a lot improved to what he was Risperdol is given to both schiziophrenic and Bipolar and it is better and than a lot of the medications that are older but it still has its own side effects but the are supposed to be relatively less, but time will tell.Susan H

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says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text —WebTV-Mail-925041431-7840 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Hi….. I am new to this group and would like to know if anyone here has heard of or taking the med Risperdal?  And if you are taking it, what is it used for exactly and how has it helped. My son was recently diagnosed with Attention Defcit Hyperactivity Disorder.  He has been on several meds (clonidine, adderall, ritalin, pamelor) and none of these have seemed to help.  His doctor seems to think their is something more going on than just ADHD as he has wide mood swing, explosive temper tantrums, and is  EXTREMELY aggressive, Any input on this would greatly be appreciated. Thanks!!…..Deanna

There is an article somewhere on medscape (great place for in-depth medical info) about the link between severe ADHD and bipolar disorder.  Appearently a high percentage of children who exhibit severe ADHD symptoms go on to develop bipolar disorder.  Your son might benefit from some of the treatments for bipolar disorder. Hope this helps. Tony

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Hi Deanna, My son has ADHD & BP1. Hr takes the Risperdal, because he it prevents him from hearing voice’s. he has similar experiences as your son. There is a support group for Parent’s with Children with ADHD and BP. They will help you and give more information  Let me know if I can be of further help. ). {{{{{{{Hugs}}}}}}  ~Diane~

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Hi….. I am new to this group and would like to know if anyone here has heard of or taking the med Risperdal?  And if you are taking it, what is it used for exactly and how has it helped. My son was recently diagnosed with Attention Defcit Hyperactivity Disorder.  He has been on several meds (clonidine, adderall, ritalin, pamelor) and none of these have seemed to help.  His doctor seems to think their is something more going on than just ADHD as he has wide mood swing, explosive temper tantrums, and is  EXTREMELY aggressive, Any input on this would greatly be appreciated. Thanks!!…..Deanna

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Hang in there, Hopper, I knew that wasn’t you.  Keep me informed, I hope things go well.  You know we love you, and you need to use the forum in anyway to keep you, or make you well…vent all ya like…I’m strong enough to take the brunt. *hugs* -judy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well it made me feel better to post that, so I guess that "venting" on ASDM is a form of medicine too. I’m just very uptight right now. Serious uptight. You know that I love you both. Don’t take it seriously. I’m going to see my doctor in about an hour. Hope he is understanding when I cut his earlobe off. Another form of anger management.;-} Just kidding. ;<Calm down there, honey….there is nothing wrong with using humor as a form ;<of medicine…it doesn’t mean we weren’t taking your post seriously. ;< ;<-judy ;< ;< For a guy that is desperately seeking a new med that may help my anger ;< issues, two whacked out bitches jumping around singing Hole-lee-oo and ;< Kyle’s mom, bitch bitch, turning this thread into an noninformative ;< piece of crap makes me mad. No it makes me more than mad, and I know ;< where you live, and Robert will help. ;< let ;< loose with this gem: ;< ;< ;<timmy! ;< ;< ;< ;< Weeeeeeeeelllll….Kyle’s mom’s a bitch, she’s a big ol’ bitch, ;< she’s the ;< ;< biggest bitch in the whole wide world, she’s a stupid bitch if ;< there ever ;< ;< was a bitch, she’s a bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch…(etc…) ;< ;< ;< ;< from Southpark ;< ;< ;< ;< -judy ;< ;< ;< ;< you sez….. ;< ;< Could this be the long lost darkman? ;< ;< ;< ;< Yes it is me,the long lost darkman! ;< ;< But Im also known as Dave Balnicky,Jim Schezwitz,Ralph ;< Peebles,Henry ;< ;<the ;< ;< eigth,Peggy Fleming,The Human Torch,Keith Partdridge,every ;< living cast ;< ;< member of "Green Acres",Ren,Stimpy,The owner of that piece of ;< gum on ;< ;<the ;< ;< park bench,Kyles Mom,Julio Iglesias,One of the Hardy Boys<Im not ;< sure ;< ;< which right now,The Winged Orthodontist,Nipsy ;< ;<Russel,Mr.Clean,Dr.Dirty, ;< ;< Kid Rock,The guy you wont ask for directions no matter how lost ;< you ;< ;< are,the narrator from the hindenburg tragedy,the last step in ;< any fat- ;< ;< free chicken recipe and the entire playing roster of the ‘89 Red ;< Sox. ;< ;< ;< ;< ;< ;< — ;< ;< ;< ;< "6" ;< ;< "Sorry I’m not your cup ‘o tea,but I don’t mind" ;< ;< ;< ;< ;< ;< ;< ;< ;< ;< ;<

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Well it made me feel better to post that, so I guess that "venting" on ASDM is a form of medicine too. I’m just very uptight right now. Serious uptight. You know that I love you both. Don’t take it seriously. I’m going to see my doctor in about an hour. Hope he is understanding when I cut his earlobe off. Another form of anger management.;-} Just kidding. ;<Calm down there, honey….there is nothing wrong with using humor as a form ;<of medicine…it doesn’t mean we weren’t taking your post seriously. ;< ;<-judy ;<

;< For a guy that is desperately seeking a new med that may help my anger ;< issues, two whacked out bitches jumping around singing Hole-lee-oo and ;< Kyle’s mom, bitch bitch, turning this thread into an noninformative ;< piece of crap makes me mad. No it makes me more than mad, and I know ;< where you live, and Robert will help. ;< let ;< loose with this gem: ;< ;< ;<timmy! ;< ;<

;< ;< Weeeeeeeeelllll….Kyle’s mom’s a bitch, she’s a big ol’ bitch, ;< she’s the ;< ;< biggest bitch in the whole wide world, she’s a stupid bitch if ;< there ever ;< ;< was a bitch, she’s a bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch…(etc…) ;< ;< ;< ;< from Southpark ;< ;< ;< ;< -judy ;< ;< ;< ;< you sez….. ;< ;< Could this be the long lost darkman? ;< ;< ;< ;< Yes it is me,the long lost darkman! ;< ;< But Im also known as Dave Balnicky,Jim Schezwitz,Ralph ;< Peebles,Henry ;< ;<the ;< ;< eigth,Peggy Fleming,The Human Torch,Keith Partdridge,every ;< living cast ;< ;< member of "Green Acres",Ren,Stimpy,The owner of that piece of ;< gum on ;< ;<the ;< ;< park bench,Kyles Mom,Julio Iglesias,One of the Hardy Boys<Im not ;< sure ;< ;< which right now,The Winged Orthodontist,Nipsy ;< ;<Russel,Mr.Clean,Dr.Dirty, ;< ;< Kid Rock,The guy you wont ask for directions no matter how lost ;< you ;< ;< are,the narrator from the hindenburg tragedy,the last step in ;< any fat- ;< ;< free chicken recipe and the entire playing roster of the ‘89 Red ;< Sox. ;< ;< ;< ;< ;< ;< — ;< ;< ;< ;< "6" ;< ;< "Sorry I’m not your cup ‘o tea,but I don’t mind" ;< ;< ;< ;< ;< ;< ;< ;< ;< ;< ;<

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Regarding possible augmentation of SSRIs for OCD, Jenike et al (Jenike MA, Baer L, Buttolph L. Buspirone augmentation of fluoxetine in patients with obsessive compulsive disorder. Journal of Clinical Psychiatry. 52 (1): 13-4, 1991 Jan.) did an open trial suggesting that buspirone can effectively augment fluoxetine. I have tried this in one patient and found a modest response. Jenike indicated a plan to do a controlled trial, but I haven’t seen it. There are also some reports of risperidone being helpful. Jacobson (Jacobsen FM. Risperidone in the treatment of affective illness and obsessive-compulsive disorder. Journal of Clinical Psychiatry. 56 (9): 423-9, 1995 Sep.) added it to sertraline and/or clomipramine in an open trial with 5 patients, and all were reported improved. * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping.  Smart is Beautiful

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timmy!

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Russel,Mr.Clean,Dr.Dirty, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Kid Rock,The guy you wont ask for directions no matter how lost you are,the narrator from the hindenburg tragedy,the last step in any fat- free chicken recipe and the entire playing roster of the ‘89 Red Sox. — "6" "Sorry I’m not your cup ‘o tea,but I don’t mind"

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Calm down there, honey….there is nothing wrong with using humor as a form of medicine…it doesn’t mean we weren’t taking your post seriously. -judy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For a guy that is desperately seeking a new med that may help my anger issues, two whacked out bitches jumping around singing Hole-lee-oo and Kyle’s mom, bitch bitch, turning this thread into an noninformative piece of crap makes me mad. No it makes me more than mad, and I know where you live, and Robert will help. loose with this gem: ;<timmy! ;< ;< Weeeeeeeeelllll….Kyle’s mom’s a bitch, she’s a big ol’ bitch, she’s the ;< biggest bitch in the whole wide world, she’s a stupid bitch if there ever ;< was a bitch, she’s a bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch…(etc…) ;< ;< from Southpark ;< ;< -judy ;< ;< you sez….. ;< Could this be the long lost darkman? ;< ;< Yes it is me,the long lost darkman! ;< But Im also known as Dave Balnicky,Jim Schezwitz,Ralph Peebles,Henry ;<the ;< eigth,Peggy Fleming,The Human Torch,Keith Partdridge,every living cast ;< member of "Green Acres",Ren,Stimpy,The owner of that piece of gum on ;<the ;< park bench,Kyles Mom,Julio Iglesias,One of the Hardy Boys<Im not sure ;< which right now,The Winged Orthodontist,Nipsy ;<Russel,Mr.Clean,Dr.Dirty, ;< Kid Rock,The guy you wont ask for directions no matter how lost you ;< are,the narrator from the hindenburg tragedy,the last step in any fat- ;< free chicken recipe and the entire playing roster of the ‘89 Red Sox. ;< ;< ;< — ;< ;< "6" ;< "Sorry I’m not your cup ‘o tea,but I don’t mind" ;< ;< ;< ;<

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Ewwwwwwwww ick!  Its Willy, but he really sucks (IMO) L – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -To all zee girls aff loved before… Hoof travelled in and out mah doorrrrr…. Ahm glat zey came along…. Ah dedeeeeecate zis song…. To all zeee girls aff loved before… (I’ll skip the part when Hank comes in with the nasal whine) Joolie you sez….. Could this be the long lost darkman? Yes it is me,the long lost darkman! But Im also known as Dave Balnicky,Jim Schezwitz,Ralph Peebles,Henry the eigth,Peggy Fleming,The Human Torch,Keith Partdridge,every living cast member of "Green Acres",Ren,Stimpy,The owner of that piece of gum on the park bench,Kyles Mom,Julio Iglesias,One of the Hardy Boys<Im not sure which right now,The Winged Orthodontist,Nipsy Russel,Mr.Clean,Dr.Dirty, Kid Rock,The guy you wont ask for directions no matter how lost you are,the narrator from the hindenburg tragedy,the last step in any fat- free chicken recipe and the entire playing roster of the ‘89 Red Sox.

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To all, hello. I’m new to the group and hope I can help as well as be helped. I case no one knows about this, here is a program for those having real financial difficulty paying for meds. The paperwork is a pain but the savings are worth it. http://www.medicineprogram.com/ The Hawk

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I was on it for a while.   I went off for two reasons. 1)Too expensive. 2)It stuffed up my nose so I had to breath through my mouth.  No runny nose or anything, just stuffed up.  Was annoying. I am new at this and would appreciate it if someone would like to share their experiences with Risperdal…. — "No matter where you go, there you are…"

– Bob Masakari Before you buy.

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For a guy that is desperately seeking a new med that may help my anger issues, two whacked out bitches jumping around singing Hole-lee-oo and Kyle’s mom, bitch bitch, turning this thread into an noninformative piece of crap makes me mad. No it makes me more than mad, and I know where you live, and Robert will help. loose with this gem: ;<timmy! ;<

;< Weeeeeeeeelllll….Kyle’s mom’s a bitch, she’s a big ol’ bitch, she’s the ;< biggest bitch in the whole wide world, she’s a stupid bitch if there ever ;< was a bitch, she’s a bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch…(etc…) ;< ;< from Southpark ;< ;< -judy ;<

;< you sez….. ;< Could this be the long lost darkman? ;< ;< Yes it is me,the long lost darkman! ;< But Im also known as Dave Balnicky,Jim Schezwitz,Ralph Peebles,Henry ;<the ;< eigth,Peggy Fleming,The Human Torch,Keith Partdridge,every living cast ;< member of "Green Acres",Ren,Stimpy,The owner of that piece of gum on ;<the ;< park bench,Kyles Mom,Julio Iglesias,One of the Hardy Boys<Im not sure ;< which right now,The Winged Orthodontist,Nipsy ;<Russel,Mr.Clean,Dr.Dirty, ;< Kid Rock,The guy you wont ask for directions no matter how lost you ;< are,the narrator from the hindenburg tragedy,the last step in any fat- ;< free chicken recipe and the entire playing roster of the ‘89 Red Sox. ;< ;< ;< — ;< ;< "6" ;< "Sorry I’m not your cup ‘o tea,but I don’t mind" ;< ;< ;< ;<

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i’m on it now,have been since my last manic break in january ‘00.it has made me feel the best and most clear headed i have felt in 5 years.taken away the psychosis,-once the psychosis was gone,some old confidence returned,not mania,confidence.after 7 monthes on it,i enrolled in college.i begin classes in the winter semester,part time(starting out slow,dont want to rush in over my head….)as far as expense goes-i get mine free from the VA,but do see the cost printed on my reciept-it is a very expensive drug.and i do believe its only intent and purpose is to fight psychosis…..unlike the depacote i take,as a mood stabilizer to fight the mania.i gained 30 lbs within 8 monthes of begining the depacote-have gained,or lost no additional weight since begining the resperidol….j.j.m. D.A.V.

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To all zee girls aff loved before… Hoof travelled in and out mah doorrrrr…. Ahm glat zey came along…. Ah dedeeeeecate zis song…. To all zeee girls aff loved before… (I’ll skip the part when Hank comes in with the nasal whine) Joolie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – you sez….. Could this be the long lost darkman? Yes it is me,the long lost darkman! But Im also known as Dave Balnicky,Jim Schezwitz,Ralph Peebles,Henry the eigth,Peggy Fleming,The Human Torch,Keith Partdridge,every living cast member of "Green Acres",Ren,Stimpy,The owner of that piece of gum on the park bench,Kyles Mom,Julio Iglesias,One of the Hardy Boys<Im not sure which right now,The Winged Orthodontist,Nipsy Russel,Mr.Clean,Dr.Dirty, Kid Rock,The guy you wont ask for directions no matter how lost you are,the narrator from the hindenburg tragedy,the last step in any fat- free chicken recipe and the entire playing roster of the ‘89 Red Sox.

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I think you will like Seroquel better than Zyprexa because, of course 1) S has less weight gain  2) S helps you sleep faster than Z,  3)  S has less of a "hangover effect".  4) S had no side-effects for me. * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping.  Smart is Beautiful

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Weeeeeeeeelllll….Kyle’s mom’s a bitch, she’s a big ol’ bitch, she’s the biggest bitch in the whole wide world, she’s a stupid bitch if there ever was a bitch, she’s a bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch…(etc…) from Southpark -judy

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I am new at this and would appreciate it if someone would like to share their experiences with Risperdal…. — "No matter where you go, there you are…"

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I am new at this and would appreciate it if someone would like to share their experiences with Risperdal…. — "No matter where you go, there you are…"

I was on it, nothing bad to say about it except that it made me lactate (not an uncommon side effect). Went off it cause of that and am now on Zyprexa and will soon try for Seroquel (spelling) because of the weight issue (seems that on Seroquel people can actually loose weight). I haven’t gained because of the Zyprexa, but I can’t seem to loose any on it. I digress. Ravin Before you buy.

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I am new at this and would appreciate it if someone would like to share their experiences with Risperdal….

 I’m on 1.5 mg of risperdol am/pm and I do pretty well on it. I used to have anger issues but risperdol’s sedating effects makes me very laid back, a very nice thing. There is more detailed and technical information at www.rxlist.com for ya. Web Page at: www.robertpo.com For email replies remove the ****

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Ravin: What’s the price per 100 on Risperidol? I like what Seroquel does for me, but it’s around $300 per 100 (Medicare blah, blah). Jim Jim "…sick of living unwilling to die" Words scratched into a Riverside, CA library desk. Attributed to the Zodiac, 1967.

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Ravin: What’s the price per 100 on Risperidol? I like what Seroquel does for me, but it’s around $300 per 100 (Medicare blah, blah). Jim Jim "…sick of living unwilling to die" Words scratched into a Riverside, CA library desk. Attributed to the Zodiac, 1967.

I don’t know cause I’m on Medicaid – I’m sure it probably is quite expensive though. Ravin Before you buy.

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Ravin: What’s the price per 100 on Risperidol? I like what Seroquel does for me, but it’s around $300 per 100 (Medicare blah, blah). Jim Jim "…sick of living unwilling to die" Words scratched into a Riverside, CA library desk. Attributed to the Zodiac, 1967.

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Could this be the long lost darkman?   – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – you sez….. I am new at this and would appreciate it if someone would like to share their experiences with Risperdal…. It really has helped my OCD-Obsessive compulsive disorder. I dunno if thats why it was prescribed to me or for the MD.I gave up along time ago analyzing my meds andor the mental health science except to say yep this is working for that. very few side effects for me and hardly any,if any,once I started getting acclommated<sp? to them. And,yeh as someone said…big bucks for those puppies. It dint do much *directly* for my manic-depression,though — "6" "Sorry I’m not your cup ‘o tea,but I don’t mind"

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Hi,     I’ve got a question about Risperdal. Is it possible for risperdal to calm down circular type thoughts as quickly as 30 minutes after taking it. This seemed to happen to me once or trice but the website www.risperdal.com states it takes about 1 week to affect acute psychosis. Ok the reason I’m asking this is because I have my doubts that we were treating a mind racing/psychotic/what ever problem and that the thoughts I had were calmed just by the knowledge that I’d taken something. Any thoughts !!!! anybody ? M Before you buy.

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i can only say that ive seen it stop some heavy duty events…but i dont know any better than you do if its because of its "instant" effect..which is supposedly untrue  or because there is something unknown about the med that makes it do what it does for many people. i DO know that anyone i have worked with on resperidol is on it consistently..every day. the person having the "issue" at the time was non verbal(but very big..) so perhaps he was feeling it  as you did. there are a couple of people here more qualified than i am to answer you. im just saying that ive seen ONE incident of it stopping a severely aggressive episode.and a few others when it "supposedly" was used as an emergency med..much like thiorazine was used to bring people who were ‘freaking out" on lsd back from where ever they were. i hope you get some better answers. good luck!!!!! harpy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi,     I’ve got a question about Risperdal. Is it possible for risperdal to calm down circular type thoughts as quickly as 30 minutes after taking it. This seemed to happen to me once or trice but the website www.risperdal.com states it takes about 1 week to affect acute psychosis. Ok the reason I’m asking this is because I have my doubts that we were treating a mind racing/psychotic/what ever problem and that the thoughts I had were calmed just by the knowledge that I’d taken something. Any thoughts !!!! anybody ? M Before you buy.

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Hi,    I’ve got a question about Risperdal. Is it possible for risperdal to calm down circular type thoughts as quickly as 30 minutes after taking it. This seemed to happen to me once or trice but the website www.risperdal.com states it takes about 1 week to affect acute psychosis. Ok the reason I’m asking this is because I have my doubts that we were treating a mind racing/psychotic/what ever problem and that the thoughts I had were calmed just by the knowledge that I’d taken something. Any thoughts !!!! anybody ?

I take 2 mgs at night and I still get intrusive racing thoughts.  I don’t know about circular thoughts. Julie

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi,    I’ve got a question about Risperdal. Is it possible for risperdal to calm down circular type thoughts as quickly as 30 minutes after taking it. This seemed to happen to me once or trice but the website www.risperdal.com states it takes about 1 week to affect acute psychosis. Ok the reason I’m asking this is because I have my doubts that we were treating a mind racing/psychotic/what ever problem and that the thoughts I had were calmed just by the knowledge that I’d taken something. Any thoughts !!!! anybody ? I take 2 mgs at night and I still get intrusive racing thoughts.  I don’t know about circular thoughts. Julie

Hi Julie,     I don’t know exactly what people mean by racing thoughts, but if they anything like my thoughts I can’t switch off (circular thoughts) then we’re just using different terminology for the same thing. I take 3mg risperdal nightly as a maintainence dose. 2mg is a low dose, perhaps you need more. Having said that my pdoc said that they had a patient who was on just 0.5 (soon to be knocked down to 0.25) and if that person took a whole mg they couldn’t walk !! Can you walk !! ?? Before you buy.

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Hi Julie,    I don’t know exactly what people mean by racing thoughts, but if they anything like my thoughts I can’t switch off (circular thoughts) then we’re just using different terminology for the same thing. I take 3mg risperdal nightly as a maintainence dose. 2mg is a low dose, perhaps you need more. Having said that my pdoc said that they had a patient who was on just 0.5 (soon to be knocked down to 0.25) and if that person took a whole mg they couldn’t walk !! Can you walk !! ?? Before you buy.

Yes, I can walk and even chew gum if required.  I think we are talking about the same thought patterns.  If so, risperdal quiets mine down rather quickly as well. Good luck to you. Julie

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It’s an incredible drug — I know exactly how you felt walking down the street.  I just had a really bad manic episode — lasted about three days, in which I didn’t go to sleep because I had so many things to do around the apartment, like laundry, cleaning, etc.  I was petrified that somebody was going to find a horrible mess.  In the meantime, the place was really fine.  The Risp. totally calmed me down and my ffear went away. Rich

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I missed the original post because I just started to read this newsgroup. But when I saw the name Risperdal it struck a chord in me. Let me start from the beginning…My name in real-life is Liz.  I was diagnosed with manic-depression when I was 16 years old.  I was a very messed up child with a history of drug/alcohol abuse, running away, skipping school, a history of sexual abuse as a child and rape as a teenager on top of/along with the manic depression. Anyway, I am now 25.  I somehow made it through college after 6 years.  I had a major episode of either depression or mania-then-depression every 6 months for 6 years.  Thanks to finally finding the right med combination and some really good therapy, I haven’t had a major episode in over 2.5 years.   I have a degree in Sociology and want to get a Masters of Social Work degree, so that I can eventually work with teenagers who have been diagnosed with mental illnesses.   I work now for a psychiatric housing program as a Rehabilitation Counselor.  Just about everyone at work knows that I have manic depression, if they don’t know it is just because I haven’t gotten around to telling them, because I don’t care who knows.  My co-workers are very supportive. On to the Risperdal part of the story.  I have been hypomanic for two weeks.  I went to my doctor and told her what was going on.  Racing thoughts, driving fast, difficulty sleeping, low appetite (very unusual for me) and LOW impulse control.  It’s not a full-blown manic, I sort of feel like I am in control of the situation, but I know that I am skirting the danger zone.  She wanted to put me on Risperdal. I absolutely refused to.  I am scared to take an anti-psychotic.  I have always taken a twisted sense of pride in the fact that I have never had to take one.  One of my friends at work pointed out to me that I have attached a big stigma to a drug that could potentially help me.  Why have I done that?  Is it because it would mean I am really sick if I took one? And right now I am only sort of sick?  What if I lose it and I could have prevented it? We are trying Depakote on top of my Tegretol, Desipramine, Prozac and Klonopin.  I feel like a walking pharmacy. Help me out guys. DAKINI…a wrathful or semiwrathful female diety

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Risperdal has helped me (especially with sleep) when Lithium or Depakote didn’t work alone.  I only take 0.5 mg so it is a very low dose compared to what someone with schizophrenia would probably take.

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Rispederal has made a tremendous differnece in my drug therapy.  Combined with the 1000 mgs of Depakote and 2 mgs of Klonopin I take every day, it had taken the edge of the mania that continuely haunts me. I was a nasty maniac until I was put on rispederal.  I take .5 mgs in the morning and will take another .5 if I feel like I’m losing it but that is a rare occurrence now.  All I can say is that I fell that it has helped me in smoothing out the edges.   I think it depends on what kind of maniac you are.  As I mentioned, I am a fierce maniac, with very little depression.  I needed this drug to resocialize, give me time to deal with my ferocity in therapy. There you have it.  One gal’s opinon. Best of luck.

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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:34:55 -0500, in alt.support.schizophrenia ,"walt" <sart…@bellsouth.net wrote: No Seroquel. These guys need to get on the ball. Walt

Walt, what do you pay for Seroquel.  I am talking to E-pharmacy.  They want to know. They have Seroquel but do not list a price.  Write to me at Home? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

Kathleen <kathleen.dick…@snet.net wrote in message news:3A5CE15F.2B89@snet.net… e-pharmacy.net wrote: when you have a chronic illness the last thing you need is to be worried about the high cost of medicines. go to www.e-pharmacy.net for the best price on prescription medicine Pretty good. Risperidal is almost 1/2 of what I paid at Brooks. ——- http://home.earthlink.net/~shatteredbylife/index.htm Every absurdity has a champion to defend it

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They want more than twice what my HMO charges for Topamax

HMOs are different. I wrote to them and told them where to look to see what meds we need in the US http://www.mentalhealth.com and also sent them to the Lyme disease newsgroup.  We are always looking for discount antibiotics.  Many people get them from Mexico, but if Risperidal is an example of good we can do thru them, I am sure they could pick up a lot of business from the Lyme disease community. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:34:55 -0500, in alt.support.schizophrenia ,"walt" <sart…@bellsouth.net wrote: No Seroquel. These guys need to get on the ball. Walt Kathleen <kathleen.dick…@snet.net wrote in message news:3A5CE15F.2B89@snet.net… e-pharmacy.net wrote: when you have a chronic illness the last thing you need is to be worried about the high cost of medicines. go to www.e-pharmacy.net for the best price on prescription medicine Pretty good. Risperidal is almost 1/2 of what I paid at Brooks. ——- http://home.earthlink.net/~shatteredbylife/index.htm Every absurdity has a champion to defend it

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when you have a chronic illness the last thing you need is to be worried about the high cost of medicines. go to www.e-pharmacy.net for the best price on prescription medicine

Pretty good. Risperidal is almost 1/2 of what I paid at Brooks.

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No Seroquel. These guys need to get on the ball. Walt Kathleen <kathleen.dick…@snet.net

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Well, I guess it’s comforting to know that if I ever lost my health insurance I could just buy some of the old meds, cheaply. Pablo

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Please, Jessica, keep in touch with some professional help about your eating. I’m glad you’re still getting in those calories, but it’s so easy to slip and drink one less can, and then one less…you’ve come so far, you have so much ahead of you.  Be careful, okay? Love you, Butterflies ~In the event of rapture, this account will be unmanned.

I made a decision yesterday not to let the latest set of trials and bad times destroy the progress I have made so far. Spolier for Mention of food and specifics: * * * * * * * * * * * * So this morning I have gotten up, and I am chewing away at my muesli, and drinking my iced coffee. I don’t feel like I am slipping in the sense that I am not actually thinking about what I am eating, or counting calories etc. It is more just the whole idea of preparing a meal, and the lifting the spoon/fork, putting the food in my mouth, and chewing that is the problem. I think I am just so stressed, that it is all too much effort. I just can’t be bothered eating!!!!!!! It is such a pain in the ass. I have maintained my calories – I think, as I am not really counting them, more than likely I am just replacing each snack/meal with with ensure or juice. I finally got a good nights sleep last night – a God send! I have been experimenting with my meds, and decided to leave last nights dose of Effexor until the am, and see if that helped, and it did – so maybe no need for Seroquel after all? It’s my day off work, and I plan to catch up on my snail mail, and clean my filthy house!!!!! My brain, and soul has been on hiatus for a week now, and it’s time to get things back on track  - I hope! Love right back at you ((((((((Butterflies)))))), Keep On Truckin’ oh Sweet one, Jessica

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{{{{{Jessica}}}}} keeping spoiler… / / / / / / / / / Somehow I have totally slipped off my meal plan – I haven’t let the calories drop, but I am only taking in liquids – Ensure and Juice Boxes??

Hey, a fellow liquid-dieter!  (Diet as in, the way a person eats, not the weight-loss plan.)  I can relate to the Ensure, but juice in any way, shape, or form is not for me.  Have you tried coffee flavour Ensure?  That is my very, very, all-time favorite. Please, Jessica, keep in touch with some professional help about your eating. I’m glad you’re still getting in those calories, but it’s so easy to slip and drink one less can, and then one less…you’ve come so far, you have so much ahead of you.  Be careful, okay? Love you, Butterflies ~In the event of rapture, this account will be unmanned.

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hey jess.  looks like my med regimen actually =)  don’t you have the SR form of effexor over there?  that would cut you down to one dose in the morning and might help your sleep.  effexor tends to rev people up.  i know if i take effexor after about noon-i might as well rent 8-10 hours worth of movies because i’m going to be up all night.

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I am feeling more and more like a lost cause each day.

((((Jessica)))), just because you have problems, and need medicine, does not, I repeat, not make you a lost cause!  It does not make you less of a person… Your soul is still the same.  Beautiful, special! Ears The voyage of discovery lies not in finding new landscapes but in having new eyes. – Marcel Proust

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Ok, Here’s how it is. Birds twittering, very loud – bloody Miner bird (unfortunately I hear they are an endangered species, so my idea of catching it and strangling it is not an option). Sound familiar? Maybe like my last two long posts in regard to no sleep. Spoiler for almost anything: * * * * * * * * * * I had spent the whole day yesterday convincing myself, that I don’t need more meds (especially anti-psychotics), and that the PSTD diagnosis was a mistake. But then again last night, I take my Serepax (anti-anxiety benzodiazapine), which has worked wonders in the past, and sleep for an hour, then wake up teeth grinding from another nightmare, and hot sweats (I am only 23 – I can’t be going through the menopause yet!!!!!!). Anyway, to cut a long story short – it is now 5.37am the sun is officially up, and I have decided that I will call my psych and ask him to prescribe the bloody Seroquel. I am terrified of any side effects, especially weight gain of course!!!!! But have had some positive comments on it’s use for anxiety and intrusive flashbacks, and insomnia. I am also terrified of taking more meds, my back pack feels like a walking pharmacy where ever I go. 150mg of Effexor am 30mg of Serepax am 30mg of Serepax midday 150mg of Effexor pm 30mg of Serepax pm 5mg of Mogadon before bed. I am feeling more and more like a lost cause each day. Well it’s off to swimming training for me – nothing like a brisk swim to tire out the body, lets just hope my brain shuts up for a bit, and I can get some sleep when I get home. Somehow I have totally slipped off my meal plan – I haven’t let the calories drop, but I am only taking in liquids – Ensure and Juice Boxes?? I am so out of it, I will have to post more later – I feel like a zombie, and I look like one too – Isn’t Halloween coming up?? Gotta Love ya, and Leave ya, Keep On truckin’ Jessica.

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I have come to the conclusion that I am a total bore on medication.  I have a much richer inner and outer life when I am not taking my meds.  Things look better to me physically, brighter and plastic-like.  Sounds are more pronounced.  Even movement is more rhythmic when I dont take them.  All of my senses are so dulled now that I am on meds.  I feel nothing, and it is as if everything I see has taken on a shade of gray.  I have a vacancy of thought and ideas and rarely say anything at all to people. Does anyone else relate?  Granted my delusions are gone but maybe life was more interesting with them.  I still hear voices, although these are non-threatening ones, and they are something I want to continue to experience. Has medication made anyone else a dullard?  I am questioning my need to continue taking them. —Jeni

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I have come to the conclusion that I am a total bore on medication.  I have a much richer inner and outer life when I am not taking my meds.  Things look better to me physically, brighter and plastic-like.  Sounds are more pronounced.  Even movement is more rhythmic when I dont take them.  All of my senses are so dulled now that I am on meds.  I feel nothing, and it is as if everything I see has taken on a shade of gray.  I have a vacancy of thought and ideas and rarely say anything at all to people. Does anyone else relate?

Not really. I hate my episodes, because I can’t think deep thoughts, just shallow surface ones.

Granted my delusions are gone but maybe life was more interesting with them.  I still hear voices, although these are non-threatening ones, and they are something I want to continue to experience. Has medication made anyone else a dullard?  I am questioning my need to continue taking them. —Jeni

Well, have you ever had voices drive you near suicide? Or have you ever been in danger of hurting someone? If so, don’t even think about it. Otherwise, the choice is up to you. Just think long and hard before going off the meds. You might also want the docs to try you on different medications. What are you taking, and can you switch to a different med or meds? If you’re taking a lot of them, you might see your doctor and ask about trying to reduce them down. Sometimes docs like the shotgun approach, which can overmedicate people and cause similar sensations as yours. I’m about to ask my doc for a change in medication because I’m gaining enough weight that it could potentially be a health hazard later. I didn’t want to change, but I’ve been on a low-meat diet and been excerising regularly for a month, and still haven’t lost any weight ( in fact, i’ve gained, if anything. ) What tops it off is that I’ve got tendonitis and I can’t bike anymore for a month. I really want to stop this now before I have to use prescription aids to lose weight. — Rob Meyer / atomic…@shaftnet.org|  As Voltaire once said- Student, Assassin, Nice Guy |       " Witty quotes mean nothing. " North Avenue Trade School |        

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On 12 Aug 2000 04:28:57 GMT, robrpm2…@aol.comInternet (RobRPM2222) wrote:  Ive also gained about 15kg on Olanzapine, what meds are you taking. I need it to sleep though. If I dont take it im up till about 4am. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

I’m about to ask my doc for a change in medication because I’m gaining enough weight that it could potentially be a health hazard later. I didn’t want to change, but I’ve been on a low-meat diet and been excerising regularly for a month, and still haven’t lost any weight ( in fact, i’ve gained, if anything. ) What tops it off is that I’ve got tendonitis and I can’t bike anymore for a month. I really want to stop this now before I have to use prescription aids to lose weight.

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I have come to the conclusion that I am a total bore on medication.  I

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a much richer inner and outer life when I am not taking my meds.  Things look better to me physically, brighter and plastic-like.  Sounds are more pronounced.  Even movement is more rhythmic when I dont take them.  All of my senses are so dulled now that I am on meds.  I feel nothing, and it is

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if everything I see has taken on a shade of gray.  I have a vacancy of thought and ideas and rarely say anything at all to people. Does anyone

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relate?  Granted my delusions are gone but maybe life was more interesting with them.  I still hear voices, although these are non-threatening ones, and they are something I want to continue to experience. Has medication

made

anyone else a dullard?  I am questioning my need to continue taking them. —Jeni

Yes, I can relate.  When I was first put on meds by way of huge injections I felt as though I had no thoughts any more.  It was like a huge plateau was situated over my head and I was at the bottom of reality with the last spider on earth.  My imagination and other reality was completely dead. This was not so much because of meds, but because of TOO MUCH meds. You said the voices scared you and tried to kill you – do you really want this back? It may be an idea to look into reducing them, with the advice and agreement of your doctor, but if your life (as you have said in the past) is hell for you without meds as far as the voices are concerned, then you should think twice before giving them up. I have reduced mine over the years to the stage where I do still hear voices but can manage (just) to function in reality and hold down a job.  When I am without meds completely I do not eat and do not relate to this side of reality AT ALL. Michelle

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Ive also gained about 15kg on Olanzapine, what meds are you taking. I need it to sleep though. If I dont take it im up till about 4am.

I’ve gained 25 pounds on Risperdial, 4 1/2 milligrams. I’m thinking about going on Seroquel. I think Olanzpine is Zyprexa, which I have no experience with. But all the atypical antipsychotics increase weight terribly, except for Seroquel. Risperdial makes me a little sleepy, but not after I’ve been taking a constant dose for a period of time. — Rob Meyer / atomic…@shaftnet.org|  As Voltaire once said- Student, Assassin, Nice Guy |       " Witty quotes mean nothing. " North Avenue Trade School |        

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Hi! Medication changes my character.  On reduced meds I am more cutting, aggressive and hard-working the down side is I sleep and have a bit more ‘thinking about what people said’ obsessions.  But no voices, delusions on reduced meds, probably there is a risk though. On high medication I am timid and work is a constant struggle, and I do blank out for periods and do absolutely nothing.  Because my mind is more of a blank I do not obsess much.  The good thing is that life like this is easy and there are no upsets, providing I can do my workload. Sleep is also much better.  The thing that hurts my pride is that I cannot participate fully in banter at the office and get easily hurt/embarrassed without redress.  I also get a lot of runny stools on high meds. On zero medication I go mad. Regards Peter * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping.  Smart is Beautiful

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I was in hell before with my symptoms but now it seems I am in pergatory, a no mans land. I am like a zombie now.  I have caught myself drooling and all I really do is stare into space.  I walk slower, talk slower, everything slower.  At least I had energy before.  I guess I dont want my symptoms to come back full fledged but if there were a way to control what did come back I would do it.  I am probably better off now in terms of my own safety but as for being a productive member of society, I am a lost cause.  My doctor refuses to reduce my medications. —Jeni "duck" <d…@somewhere.com

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> news:Ly3l5.2280$FY4.87352@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net… > > I have come to the conclusion that I am a total bore on medication.  I > have > > a much richer inner and outer life when I am not taking my meds.  Things > > look better to me physically, brighter and plastic-like.  Sounds are more

pronounced.  Even movement is more rhythmic when I dont take them.  All

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my senses are so dulled now that I am on meds.  I feel nothing, and it

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as if everything I see has taken on a shade of gray.  I have a vacancy of thought and ideas and rarely say anything at all to people. Does anyone else relate?  Granted my delusions are gone but maybe life was more

interesting

with them.  I still hear voices, although these are non-threatening

ones,

and they are something I want to continue to experience. Has medication made anyone else a dullard?  I am questioning my need to continue taking

them.

—Jeni Yes, I can relate.  When I was first put on meds by way of huge injections

I

felt as though I had no thoughts any more.  It was like a huge plateau was situated over my head and I was at the bottom of reality with the last spider on earth.  My imagination and other reality was completely dead. This was not so much because of meds, but because of TOO MUCH meds. You said the voices scared you and tried to kill you – do you really want this back? It may be an idea to look into reducing them, with the advice and

agreement

of your doctor, but if your life (as you have said in the past) is hell

for

you without meds as far as the voices are concerned, then you should think twice before giving them up. I have reduced mine over the years to the stage where I do still hear

voices

but can manage (just) to function in reality and hold down a job.  When I

am

without meds completely I do not eat and do not relate to this side of reality AT ALL. Michelle

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Oops…misspelled purgatory. –Jeni "psyk5150" <jenirobe…@earthlink.net

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I was in hell before with my symptoms but now it seems I am in pergatory,

a

no mans land. I am like a zombie now.  I have caught myself drooling and

all

I really do is stare into space.  I walk slower, talk slower, everything slower.  At least I had energy before.  I guess I dont want my symptoms to come back full fledged but if there were a way to control what did come

back > I would do it.  I am probably better off now in terms of my own safety but > as for being a productive member of society, I am a lost cause.  My doctor > refuses to reduce my medications. > —Jeni > "duck" <d…@somewhere.com

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> > news:Ly3l5.2280$FY4.87352@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net… > > > I have come to the conclusion that I am a total bore on medication.  I > > have > > > a much richer inner and outer life when I am not taking my meds. Things

look better to me physically, brighter and plastic-like.  Sounds are more pronounced.  Even movement is more rhythmic when I dont take them.

All

of my senses are so dulled now that I am on meds.  I feel nothing, and it is as if everything I see has taken on a shade of gray.  I have a vacancy of thought and ideas and rarely say anything at all to people. Does

anyone

else relate?  Granted my delusions are gone but maybe life was more interesting with them.  I still hear voices, although these are non-threatening ones, and they are something I want to continue to experience. Has

medication

made anyone else a dullard?  I am questioning my need to continue taking them. —Jeni Yes, I can relate.  When I was first put on meds by way of huge

injections

I felt as though I had no thoughts any more.  It was like a huge plateau

was

situated over my head and I was at the bottom of reality with the last spider on earth.  My imagination and other reality was completely dead. This was not so much because of meds, but because of TOO MUCH meds. You said the voices scared you and tried to kill you – do you really

want

this back? It may be an idea to look into reducing them, with the advice and agreement of your doctor, but if your life (as you have said in the past) is hell for you without meds as far as the voices are concerned, then you should

think

twice before giving them up. I have reduced mine over the years to the stage where I do still hear voices but can manage (just) to function in reality and hold down a job.  When

I

am without meds completely I do not eat and do not relate to this side of reality AT ALL. Michelle

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How long have you been on your current level of medication? Sometimes you feel the worst when you first go up on them, but after a while your body readjusts itself to the new dose and things aren’t that bad. Give it some time. Your life may be more interesting without meds, but you probably will get paranoid once they are totally out of your system. Remember the ancient Chinese curse," May you live in interesting times."

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Hi RJones! I thank you for your inquiry.  However I am feeling disinclined to discuss dose issues right now. Lately I have switched from being a ‘night owl’ staying up late and an ‘early bird’ early to bed early to rise.  I am stabilising on the new body clock and and enjoying all the benefits, as are my family. Are you on meds also ? Regards Peter Regards Peter ———————————————————– Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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I was actually saying that to Jeni, but I guess it applies to everone. I also agree that there is definately such a thing as too much medication. I’m on an antipsychotic, an antidepressant, and an antianxiety medication. I would tell you exactly what they were, but I don’t have my little pill book with me right now and would probably misspell them horribly and embarrass myself. Ryan

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On Sat, 12 Aug 2000 03:31:55 GMT, "psyk5150" <jenirobe…@earthlink.net

posted a message in news:alt.support.schizophrenia, which said:

I have come to the conclusion that I am a total bore on medication.  I have a much richer inner and outer life when I am not taking my meds.  Things look better to me physically, brighter and plastic-like.  Sounds are more pronounced.  Even movement is more rhythmic when I dont take them.  All of my senses are so dulled now that I am on meds.  I feel nothing, and it is as if everything I see has taken on a shade of gray.  I have a vacancy of thought and ideas and rarely say anything at all to people. Does anyone else relate?  Granted my delusions are gone but maybe life was more interesting with them.  I still hear voices, although these are non-threatening ones, and they are something I want to continue to experience.  Has medication made anyone else a dullard?  I am questioning my need to continue taking them.

I know exactly how you feel.  I never was on meds regularly.  I took them only when I was watched by an authority figure.  If it was possible, I held the pills in my mouth and spit them into the water fountain. No anti-psychotics have touched my lips since January of 1998 after insisting that the psychiatrist release me from the meds.  He did, based on the fact that I was an adult, but noted that it was against his recommendation. Since that time I’ve had lots of personal insights.  The schizophrenic thoughts that took me on my ride have passed away.  However, I guess I should say that I’m at somewhat of an advantage over most people in that I have been able to seclude myself in a zen-like way for personal exploration.  There was no concern that I would go to work and schitz out if the pressure became too much without meds.  That release of stress was a great facilitator. I don’t know how I would have handled it if I’d been working.  I know I didn’t want to work, and I’m not interested in it now, nor am I interested in material gains at this point.  Even my recent splurge in buying CD’s has been largely unsatisfying.  It’s not that I want more, and it’s not that I regret getting the CD’s I got.  It’s just that they didn’t bring the same comfort I thought they’d bring.  Meaning, I enjoy the silence more than the music. At any rate, I only wish more people had the ability to stay away from the world for a time and live without the medications.  If there’s any way you can do that, I highly recommend it. Ty

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I have come to the conclusion that I am a total bore on medication.  I

have

a much richer inner and outer life when I am not taking my meds.  Things look better to me physically, brighter and plastic-like.  Sounds are more pronounced.  Even movement is more rhythmic when I dont take them.  All of my senses are so dulled now that I am on meds.  I feel nothing, and it is

as

if everything I see has taken on a shade of gray.  I have a vacancy of thought and ideas and rarely say anything at all to people. Does anyone

else

relate?  Granted my delusions are gone but maybe life was more interesting with them.  I still hear voices, although these are non-threatening ones, and they are something I want to continue to experience. Has medication

made

anyone else a dullard?  I am questioning my need to continue taking them. —Jeni

Yes I know what you mean.  It is Sunday evening and the radio?  It sounds like the radio.  I miss being able to tune into spaceships orbiting in space, or another planet, or the angels.  I miss hearing what COULD be there. Sometimes I am tempted to smoke a joint just to get a bit more out of it but then I could get out of it in a bad way and end up somewhere I don’t want to be. Well I have a job, I can behave myself in front of my parents, I can write messages. In the words of Queen (Freddie Mercury) "There must be more to life than this". Michelle

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Ty I was just curious if you live at home? How old you are? Why you don’t feel like working? (by the way I don’t either) I also haven’t felt the need for material things like I did before I had my last episode. As matter of fact I was consumed with getting more and more before this happened to me. Now I’m happy as long as I have food, water and shelter. TV was even a bore for me for a while. I have now engaged in that and enjoying tv once again. I have been spending less time on the internet. Well hope you reply and if you don’t feel easy answering the questions maybe you could respond in person.                                                         Thanks Rob

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First of all, this post started out to be quite brief, but ended up being a rant about the perils of living with a friend and under his financial care. On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 22:59:04 -0500, "Rob H" <r…@rchjr.com

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Ty I was just curious if you live at home?  How old you are?  Why you don’t feel like working?  (by the way I don’t either)

I live with a friend who does work.  I’m 30 years old.  I don’t feel like working because to me it’s a horrible experience.  I have worked, but the idea of giving myself to an organization for 40 hours per week is not in my best interest.  I didn’t go to college because I didn’t want to.  I was average in school — graduated high school with an overall score of about 83, IIRC.  "Making something of myself" was never a big goal for me.  I would have liked to get into some acting, but never wanted it badly enough to  pursue it seriously beyond a few acting classes and an improvisation class. I worked from ages 16 to 3.5 months into age 27, and for a 3 week stretch when I was 27.57.  Since then I’ve not worked at all.  If I do anything from this point, it will be computer programming, though I’d really rather delve into electronic music, not necessarily for profit, but that would be okay since I could pay my friend back for his generosity (even though I sometimes feel like a slave to his "fix me a drink" and "cook me something to eat" attitude).  Yes, being "kept" does have its drawbacks which often makes me want to "buckle down" and find a way to be on my own again so I can escape feeling like a servant to this person.  Yet at the same time, if I’m on my own, I can’t live like a monk and meditate as much as I do now, so perhaps it’s a tradeoff.  If I bring up how degrading it is to feel like I’m being treated like Aunt Jemima, he always brings up the fact that he buys the food.  So he comes in from work, walks right by the fridge, sits down and then "asks" me to fix him something to drink — and he does it in the patronizing manner that isn’t a command or an order, but this "Oh, I’m such a sweetie" way that just makes me want to vomit. So I imagine I’ll write some shareware programs and pay him off.  If his reasoning for manipulating me into being his servant is that he buys the food, then he should be happy when I present him with a check for about $9,000 to pay for the last three years I’ve lived here, then I’ll just pay rent and he can fix his own drinks.  I have no bills, no car, no insurance, so the only thing it costs is food, water and electricity. $9,000 should more than cover it, especially considering that I cook all the meals and clean the whole kitchen usually twice or three times a day.  BTW, I have no problem cooking.  But once I was flat out asleep — in bed for the night — and he woke me up and wanted me to fix him something to eat.  Talk about a rude awakening.  When I told him how sleepy I was, he just stood there and pouted and then walked off without saying anything — his way of trying to make me feel guilty so he can get what he wants.  He must think I’m a total retard.  Anyway, if I express discontent at having to fix him a drink, he pouts and says, "Well, fine, if you won’t do it I’ll just get up and do it myself."  But the thing is, I’m not the kind of person to ask for junk like that!  If I want something to drink, *I* always get up and fix it myself!  His favorite food is mashed potatoes.  Sometimes he wants them and if I seem to be a little involved in something, he’ll usually say, "Well, if you’ll peel and chop them, I’ll mash them."  Yeah, right!  Give the most laborious part to gullible and easy-to-manipulate Ty and I won’t have to do very much. We just got back from a vacation (which wasn’t my idea, BTW) and he wouldn’t go unless I went along.  So I went with him on a trip through the Northeast United States.  What did I do but haul all the luggage into the hotel every night?  For a few moments I found out what it must be like to have a nagging wife.  After receiving my list of things he wanted from the car, I huff and puff the stuff into the hotel room only to be greeted by him holding an ice bucket.  Now he wants ice.  In the mornings it’s, "Okay, I’ve got everything I need out of my suitcase. You can take it down to the car now."  What does he say when I protest? "Well, I paid for all this."

I also haven’t felt the need for material things like I did before I had my last episode.  As matter of fact I was consumed with getting more and more before this happened to me.  Now I’m happy as long as I have food, water and shelter.

Before my first and only episode, I had gone into bankruptcy.  I had spent money mostly on a $1,300 computer, $1,500 on America Online, about $2,500 in home electronics and about $1,200 worth of car stereo equipment, plus about $800 in some software for a Philips CD-I I bought. The rest was for odds and ends — eating out, gasoline, small purchases… and also there was a ‘95 Chevy S-10 involved which I bought new in October of 1994. So I had a few things that were expensive, but I don’t think I was all that extravagant.  I had no paintings, no pictures except those given to me, my dishes were my parents old dishes for the most part.  I fell behind a little in my bills and thought I might be able to make enough in the Coast Guard to pay my bills while in the service, as well as keeping myself from running up any more bills.  Doing the math, I realized I wouldn’t be making enough so I backed out at the last minute, but not having worked during the time I was waiting to leave (plus being delayed a couple of months) it was just too late.  I filed bankruptcy, I think in April of 1994.

TV was even a bore for me for a while.  I have now engaged in that and enjoying tv once again.

I hardly watched TV at all from around November of 1996 to June of 1997. There’s not much I find entertaining in the fictional areas.  I like Star Trek Voyager most of the time.  But even my all time favorite comedy, "Mr. Belvedere" is not as much fun as it used to be.  While I think world events are ultimately inconsequential, I’m still most interested in news channels on TV because they deal with the "here and now".  I’ll also watch some of the Discovery Channel documentaries about space flight, dreams, UFO’s, etc… and think about what things might be life if "this" and if "that".  I think my fascination with the news stems from the fact that it’s real, it’s here, and it’s what’s happening now.  UFO’s might be out there, but not only have I not seen one, I have no reason to believe that "they are here".  Perhaps they are — disguised as everyday human beings, but they don’t want to be discovered now, so I’m not too interested in it.  At the same time, if the thought arises, I will contemplate it for a time.

I have been spending less time on the internet.  

I’m compelled to spend less time online as well.  The only real reason I get online to begin with is to make some spending money with those online ad viewer thingies.  I reward myself for good behavior with CD’s. David Arkenstone has a new CD out that I must have, but even getting CD’s isn’t as rewarding as I once thought it would be.  Yeah, it’s great, but it didn’t fill the void I hoped it would fill…or rather, the void has been filled, but the void wasn’t as big as I imagined it was and what was filled is relatively insignificant. I think if they legalize marijuana, that would help fill a pretty big void for me.

Well hope you reply and if you don’t feel easy answering the questions maybe you could respond in person.

I’m pretty open with my responses, I think.  I’ve even shared things in some newsgroups that others have shamed me for.  I don’t care.  I love to share something deep and secret to me when it results in someone else saying that they can understand it, or that they might wish for something similar. Ty

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Sandra- Hi. Yeah, i guess that’s true. Well, I took the seroquel last night. it totally knocked me out like quick. Unfortunately i didn’t sleep sound through the night, but i was so exhausted it wasn’t hard to fall back asleep. Actually all day i feel into and out of sleep til dinner, and i felt kinda sickish. Guess I’ll just take it real easy for a few days. Thanks for your thoughts. I hope you are doing well. I am thinking about you too. les. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi les I think you did really well at the appointment with your therapist.  That is Progress!!!!.  Progress doesn’t always even feel good,  at least not straight away. I don’t know much about the Seroquel so I will leave that to more knowledgeable ASAPers I am a bit short for words recently but you know I am thinking of you and cheering for you. Feel Strong  {{{{{{{les}}}}}}} love Sandra 046.remarq.com… Hi all. Okay, well i survived through a marathon day. Hehe. First I had the appt with the therapist and my dad. I mostly just listened. It was really hard though. I mean he reminded me of things, told me some i didn’t know. I mean he’s known a bit more than I’ve realized. And also figured some stuff he didn’t know really. He told us that ever since I was a toddler and younger even, my mother treated me negatively and emotionally abusive, which I realized early on. We talked about the really bad things and all. Then they told me how I could tell him anything. Then she checked in with me alone about the ’suicidal ideations’, which i admitted were still present, but that she said we could keep it from my dad and I would make sure to take care of it if it got too bad. Anyway, from now on we’re gonna have a meeting like that (my dad, her, and me) once a week and an individual appt once a week. As far as the dr, well, we went over the history and all. I’m not sure how much he understood the situation, but I got from it that he had talked to the therapist too because they work int he same building/office. Anyway, he said for now I should stay on the buspar and zoloft, and gave me a prescription for seroquel. Starting at 1 25mg, then 2, then 3 and call him at the end of 6 days. Anyway, is anyone on this med or know anything about it? I am getting myself a little worried now. Because I was looking stuff up about it on the web and it says everywhere that it is an antipsychotic drug and is used mostly for schizophrenia (sp?). I’m trying to find somewhere that it says something milder about it or more like anxiety etc, but can’t find anything. Can anyone out there reassure me about this. I mean I know my thoughts have been nuts lately, but it’s not out of the blue paranoia or anything. Oh and my dad and I talked at dinner tonight. I told him about when my mother’s therapist called  - well he asked because of something i said today. We just talked a little about stuff, but it was really different. Good, I guess. Okay, but i’m really looking for that reassurance or something. I’m home alone tonight. sigh. thanks les. Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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Hi les I think you did really well at the appointment with your therapist.  That is Progress!!!!.  Progress doesn’t always  even feel good,  at least not straight away. I don’t know much about the Seroquel so I will leave that to more knowledgeable ASAPers I am a bit short for words recently but you know I am thinking of you and cheering for you. Feel Strong  {{{{{{{les}}}}}}} love Sandra – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all. Okay, well i survived through a marathon day. Hehe. First I had the appt with the therapist and my dad. I mostly just listened. It was really hard though. I mean he reminded me of things, told me some i didn’t know. I mean he’s known a bit more than I’ve realized. And also figured some stuff he didn’t know really. He told us that ever since I was a toddler and younger even, my mother treated me negatively and emotionally abusive, which I realized early on. We talked about the really bad things and all. Then they told me how I could tell him anything. Then she checked in with me alone about the ’suicidal ideations’, which i admitted were still present, but that she said we could keep it from my dad and I would make sure to take care of it if it got too bad. Anyway, from now on we’re gonna have a meeting like that (my dad, her, and me) once a week and an individual appt once a week. As far as the dr, well, we went over the history and all. I’m not sure how much he understood the situation, but I got from it that he had talked to the therapist too because they work int he same building/office. Anyway, he said for now I should stay on the buspar and zoloft, and gave me a prescription for seroquel. Starting at 1 25mg, then 2, then 3 and call him at the end of 6 days. Anyway, is anyone on this med or know anything about it? I am getting myself a little worried now. Because I was looking stuff up about it on the web and it says everywhere that it is an antipsychotic drug and is used mostly for schizophrenia (sp?). I’m trying to find somewhere that it says something milder about it or more like anxiety etc, but can’t find anything. Can anyone out there reassure me about this. I mean I know my thoughts have been nuts lately, but it’s not out of the blue paranoia or anything. Oh and my dad and I talked at dinner tonight. I told him about when my mother’s therapist called  - well he asked because of something i said today. We just talked a little about stuff, but it was really different. Good, I guess. Okay, but i’m really looking for that reassurance or something. I’m home alone tonight. sigh. thanks les. Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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{{{{{{{les}}}}}}   You have big steps to be taken and you are doing it!  Going into therapy with a parent must be really difficult but you are doing it.  I give you my good thoughts and prayers as peace will come to you in small slivers, yet it will come.  Enjoy those moments.  I am here if you need to talk.  I don’t know much about your meds but will check out my own med book for you. Sometimes meds work on all kinds of things, not just what the book will says it’s for.  I don’t know.  Take care and keep posting…LoveCheryl — TC3 "Can you take me higher, to a place where blind men see.  Can you take me higher, to a place with golden streets." Tremonti/Stapp

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all. Okay, well i survived through a marathon day. Hehe. First I had the appt with the therapist and my dad. I mostly just listened. It was really hard though. I mean he reminded me of things, told me some i didn’t know. I mean he’s known a bit more than I’ve realized. And also figured some stuff he didn’t know really. He told us that ever since I was a toddler and younger even, my mother treated me negatively and emotionally abusive, which I realized early on. We talked about the really bad things and all. Then they told me how I could tell him anything. Then she checked in with me alone about the ’suicidal ideations’, which i admitted were still present, but that she said we could keep it from my dad and I would make sure to take care of it if it got too bad. Anyway, from now on we’re gonna have a meeting like that (my dad, her, and me) once a week and an individual appt once a week. As far as the dr, well, we went over the history and all. I’m not sure how much he understood the situation, but I got from it that he had talked to the therapist too because they work int he same building/office. Anyway, he said for now I should stay on the buspar and zoloft, and gave me a prescription for seroquel. Starting at 1 25mg, then 2, then 3 and call him at the end of 6 days. Anyway, is anyone on this med or know anything about it? I am getting myself a little worried now. Because I was looking stuff up about it on the web and it says everywhere that it is an antipsychotic drug and is used mostly for schizophrenia (sp?). I’m trying to find somewhere that it says something milder about it or more like anxiety etc, but can’t find anything. Can anyone out there reassure me about this. I mean I know my thoughts have been nuts lately, but it’s not out of the blue paranoia or anything. Oh and my dad and I talked at dinner tonight. I told him about when my mother’s therapist called  - well he asked because of something i said today. We just talked a little about stuff, but it was really different. Good, I guess. Okay, but i’m really looking for that reassurance or something. I’m home alone tonight. sigh. thanks les. Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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Les, So happy to hear that your father is now involved in your therapy.  It helps to have someone that close to you know where your are in life and how they can help.  It was the right thing to do and you will benefit terrifically from it. Please keep working with him – he is there for you. smiles, elise

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all. Okay, well i survived through a marathon day. Hehe. First I had the appt with the therapist and my dad. I mostly just listened. It was really hard though. I mean he reminded me of things, told me some i didn’t know. I mean he’s known a bit more than I’ve realized. And also figured some stuff he didn’t know really. He told us that ever since I was a toddler and younger even, my mother treated me negatively and emotionally abusive, which I realized early on. We talked about the really bad things and all. Then they told me how I could tell him anything. Then she checked in with me alone about the ’suicidal ideations’, which i admitted were still present, but that she said we could keep it from my dad and I would make sure to take care of it if it got too bad. Anyway, from now on we’re gonna have a meeting like that (my dad, her, and me) once a week and an individual appt once a week. As far as the dr, well, we went over the history and all. I’m not sure how much he understood the situation, but I got from it that he had talked to the therapist too because they work int he same building/office. Anyway, he said for now I should stay on the buspar and zoloft, and gave me a prescription for seroquel. Starting at 1 25mg, then 2, then 3 and call him at the end of 6 days. Anyway, is anyone on this med or know anything about it? I am getting myself a little worried now. Because I was looking stuff up about it on the web and it says everywhere that it is an antipsychotic drug and is used mostly for schizophrenia (sp?). I’m trying to find somewhere that it says something milder about it or more like anxiety etc, but can’t find anything. Can anyone out there reassure me about this. I mean I know my thoughts have been nuts lately, but it’s not out of the blue paranoia or anything. Oh and my dad and I talked at dinner tonight. I told him about when my mother’s therapist called  - well he asked because of something i said today. We just talked a little about stuff, but it was really different. Good, I guess. Okay, but i’m really looking for that reassurance or something. I’m home alone tonight. sigh. thanks les. Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all. Okay, well i survived through a marathon day. Hehe. First I had the appt with the therapist and my dad. I mostly just listened. It was really hard though. I mean he reminded me of things, told me some i didn’t know. I mean he’s known a bit more than I’ve realized. And also figured some stuff he didn’t know really. He told us that ever since I was a toddler and younger even, my mother treated me negatively and emotionally abusive, which I realized early on. We talked about the really bad things and all. Then they told me how I could tell him anything. Then she checked in with me alone about the ’suicidal ideations’, which i admitted were still present, but that she said we could keep it from my dad and I would make sure to take care of it if it got too bad. Anyway, from now on we’re gonna have a meeting like that (my dad, her, and me) once a week and an individual appt once a week. As far as the dr, well, we went over the history and all. I’m not sure how much he understood the situation, but I got from it that he had talked to the therapist too because they work int he same building/office. Anyway, he said for now I should stay on the buspar and zoloft, and gave me a prescription for seroquel. Starting at 1 25mg, then 2, then 3 and call him at the end of 6 days. Anyway, is anyone on this med or know anything about it? I am getting myself a little worried now. Because I was looking stuff up about it on the web and it says everywhere that it is an antipsychotic drug and is used mostly for schizophrenia (sp?). I’m trying to find somewhere that it says something milder about it or more like anxiety etc, but can’t find anything. Can anyone out there reassure me about this. I mean I know my thoughts have been nuts lately, but it’s not out of the blue paranoia or anything. Oh and my dad and I talked at dinner tonight. I told him about when my mother’s therapist called  - well he asked because of something i said today. We just talked a little about stuff, but it was really different. Good, I guess. Okay, but i’m really looking for that reassurance or something. I’m home alone tonight. sigh. thanks les.

Hi Les, I am glad that your appointment with the therapist went so well. It sounds like you have a good arrangement now. Seroquel is indeed an antipsychotic. It is becoming more and more *en vogue* to use antipsychotics as adjunct meds for anxiety disorders. As a rule I think this should only be done when there is good reason for it (like other med combos not working etc.) but then I am not a doctor. Still you might want to ask the doctor what his *diagnosis* is and why he chose Seroquel. These are things you are not only entitled to know but *should* know so as to be an informed patient who can *cooperate* with the doctor. I hope yours is willing to do that. Philip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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Hi all. Okay, well i survived through a marathon day. Hehe. First I had the appt with the therapist and my dad. I mostly just listened. It was really hard though. I mean he reminded me of things, told me some i didn’t know. I mean he’s known a bit more than I’ve realized. And also figured some stuff he didn’t know really. He told us that ever since I was a toddler and younger even, my mother treated me negatively and emotionally abusive, which I realized early on. We talked about the really bad things and all. Then they told me how I could tell him anything. Then she checked in with me alone about the ’suicidal ideations’, which i admitted were still present, but that she said we could keep it from my dad and I would make sure to take care of it if it got too bad. Anyway, from now on we’re gonna have a meeting like that (my dad, her, and me) once a week and an individual appt once a week. As far as the dr, well, we went over the history and all. I’m not sure how much he understood the situation, but I got from it that he had talked to the therapist too because they work int he same building/office. Anyway, he said for now I should stay on the buspar and zoloft, and gave me a prescription for seroquel. Starting at 1 25mg, then 2, then 3 and call him at the end of 6 days. Anyway, is anyone on this med or know anything about it? I am getting myself a little worried now. Because I was looking stuff up about it on the web and it says everywhere that it is an antipsychotic drug and is used mostly for schizophrenia (sp?). I’m trying to find somewhere that it says something milder about it or more like anxiety etc, but can’t find anything. Can anyone out there reassure me about this. I mean I know my thoughts have been nuts lately, but it’s not out of the blue paranoia or anything. Oh and my dad and I talked at dinner tonight. I told him about when my mother’s therapist called  - well he asked because of something i said today. We just talked a little about stuff, but it was really different. Good, I guess. Okay, but i’m really looking for that reassurance or something. I’m home alone tonight. sigh. thanks les. Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all. Okay, well i survived through a marathon day. Hehe. First I had the appt with the therapist and my dad. I mostly just listened. It was really hard though. I mean he reminded me of things, told me some i didn’t know. I mean he’s known a bit more than I’ve realized. And also figured some stuff he didn’t know really. He told us that ever since I was a toddler and younger even, my mother treated me negatively and emotionally abusive, which I realized early on. We talked about the really bad things and all. Then they told me how I could tell him anything. Then she checked in with me alone about the ’suicidal ideations’, which i admitted were still present, but that she said we could keep it from my dad and I would make sure to take care of it if it got too bad. Anyway, from now on we’re gonna have a meeting like that (my dad, her, and me) once a week and an individual appt once a week. As far as the dr, well, we went over the history and all. I’m not sure how much he understood the situation, but I got from it that he had talked to the therapist too because they work int he same building/office. Anyway, he said for now I should stay on the buspar and zoloft, and gave me a prescription for seroquel. Starting at 1 25mg, then 2, then 3 and call him at the end of 6 days. Anyway, is anyone on this med or know anything about it? I am getting myself a little worried now. Because I was looking stuff up about it on the web and it says everywhere that it is an antipsychotic drug and is used mostly for schizophrenia (sp?). I’m trying to find somewhere that it says something milder about it or more like anxiety etc, but can’t find anything. Can anyone out there reassure me about this. I mean I know my thoughts have been nuts lately, but it’s not out of the blue paranoia or anything. Oh and my dad and I talked at dinner tonight. I told him about when my mother’s therapist called  - well he asked because of something i said today. We just talked a little about stuff, but it was really different. Good, I guess. Okay, but i’m really looking for that reassurance or something. I’m home alone tonight. sigh. thanks les.

{{{{{{{les}}}}}}} I wish I could help you with that med, but I don’t know anything about it.  I think you did really well today.  You talked about a lot of important things. Do you feel you accomplished a lot?  I hope so.  Just keep hanging in there and try to have a nice weekend! Love, Di

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Friends, fiends and fellow social lepers! Lend me your ears…. Ok…here, you can have them back now… SP…clean the wax out of them, ok? PP This is a public announcement to inform you all of the glorious achievement of yours truly! The shedding of 6kgs in a month! (I didn’t need that hind leg anyway It can be done!… (Unless it can’t…) If you exercise! and watch your fat intake… Don’t tell anyone, but not being on meds during that time has helped also… Not that I am advising anyone to do that! I am hanging out for Seroquel which hopefully will land on the shores of Oz next month… The drug touts that only 2% have the associated side effect of weight gain… I am crossing all paws still available and hope I will be part of the majority herd for once in my life… Hop-a-long Fritz on the Fritz…

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Dan Coyote, Jon Steiner, Fritz on the fritz, BWAG!, Morpheus <Manage…@nospam.com

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Friends, fiends and fellow social lepers! Lend me your ears….

I am a social leper because I smoke not because of my schizophrenia.  My schizophrenia merely makes me a more interesting person my dear!!!!  ;-) (teasing sweetie pie)

This is a public announcement to inform you all of the glorious

achievement

of yours truly! The shedding of 6kgs in a month! (I didn’t need that hind leg anyway It can be done!… (Unless it can’t…) If you exercise! and watch your fat intake…

EXERCISE???????  WOT’S THAT???? You mean no more pizza and Kentucky?????  No more heaps of butter on my corn on the cob????  No more (dare I say)  CHEEEEESE???????  :((((((

Hop-a-long Fritz on the Fritz…

Could you not have lost the fat off your tummy rather than lose a leg????? Quackie XXXXXX

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Duck wrote:

Dan Coyote, Jon Steiner, Fritz on the fritz, BWAG!, Morpheus <Manage…@nospam.com wrote in message news:Gag_4.188$7C1.3163@nsw.nnrp.telstra.net… Friends, fiends and fellow social lepers! Lend me your ears…. I am a social leper because I smoke not because of my schizophrenia.  My schizophrenia merely makes me a more interesting person my dear!!!!  ;-)

And a very interesting social experiment you be!

EXERCISE???????  WOT’S THAT????

I have found that if i am serious about loosing weight i exercise… If not…I don’t…

You mean no more pizza and Kentucky?????  No more heaps of butter on my corn on the cob????  No more (dare I say)  CHEEEEESE???????  :((((((

Everything in moderation, my dear Duck… Er…except exercising and fat counting. And the associated discomfort that goes with it. And the mental discipline. You simply need to exercise and count the fat intake…er…

Hop-a-long Fritz on the Fritz… Could you not have lost the fat off your tummy rather than lose a leg?????

Oh… That didn’t occur to me… Do you think blue tack will do the job? Fritz on the fritz…<plop

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My name is Liz,  I would like to respond to your recent question on schizophrenia.  I used to be on this medication ( Seroquel) alone,  I started  on the  highest  dosage possible.  I still had  symptoms, and ended up in the hospital.  I was placed on  Haldol also,  That, in addition to congentin for side effects, seems to have worked,  I heard from another person and my  nurse, that it only works for some people. So talk to your doctor about it.

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I am waiting for seroquel to come on the Australian market. I hear it is very good at *NOT* inducing weight gain. BTW…I have lost 5kgs now that I am off meds… Regards, Jon – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -jonbe…@post.com wrote in message …

I’m on Zyprexa for two years now and am just getting tired of everything, the pills in particular. Thinking of changing meds. Is anyone here on Seroquel? is it any good / effective, how is it relative to zyprexa, does it cure your voices / when you hear people talking about you? does it help with your general paranoia? what side-effects are there? I hear it gaves dogs eyes cataracts or something, is this a serious risk? does it need to be checked?

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… Hi jonbenet, I have been using Seroquel for about 8 months now. I find it to be about equal to Zyprexa for delusions & paranoia. I don’t know about voices. The only side effect of any significance I have noticed is that it makes me feel "bloated" when I eat what I consider a normal meal. In that way it forces me to eat smaller meals & I tend to lose weight slowly on it. I personally regard that as an advantage, but others might feel differently.

Major advantage in my book. Weight = diabetes/high blood pressure/general difficulty with every day maintenance. Regards, Jon

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My daughter has been on Seroquel for two years and is doing very well. It is supposed to cause less weight gain than Zyprexa. She responded to it by not hearing voices any more, right away, but it takes longer to take effect on some people. My daughter’s doctor has not tested her eyes. I have heard some doctors do. She had them tested for glasses recently, though.  Sue – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -jonbe…@post.com wrote:

I’m on Zyprexa for two years now and am just getting tired of everything, the pills in particular. Thinking of changing meds. Is anyone here on Seroquel? is it any good / effective, how is it relative to zyprexa, does it cure your voices / when you hear people talking about you? does it help with your general paranoia? what side-effects are there? I hear it gaves dogs eyes cataracts or something, is this a serious risk? does it need to be checked?

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Hi jonbenet, I have been using Seroquel for about 8 months now. I find it to be about equal to Zyprexa for delusions & paranoia. I don’t know about voices. The only side effect of any significance I have noticed is that it makes me feel "bloated" when I eat what I consider a normal meal. In that way it forces me to eat smaller meals & I tend to lose weight slowly on it. I personally regard that as an advantage, but others might feel differently. I read about the cataracts in dogs, so I had a cataract exam about 1 month ago. My ophthalmologist found nothing that seemed related to Seroquel, although I had some cataract development years before I started using Seroquel. As far as I can tell, Seroquel has not made my eyes any worse. Walt – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -jonbe…@post.com wrote:

I’m on Zyprexa for two years now and am just getting tired of everything, the pills in particular. Thinking of changing meds. Is anyone here on Seroquel? is it any good / effective, how is it relative to zyprexa, does it cure your voices / when you hear people talking about you? does it help with your general paranoia? what side-effects are there? I hear it gaves dogs eyes cataracts or something, is this a serious risk? does it need to be checked?

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